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food on the table and gas in the tank. >> obama had the right rhetoric. the middle class and take home pay, but i'm not sure there were the signature policies to back those words up. gerri: a long way to go and stuff to get through before that happens. it will be interesting to see. thank you for coming on. always great to see you. now we want to know what you think. here is our question. sinn millionaires pay higher taxes? logitech gerriwillis.com, on the right-hand side of the screen and also the results of the end of the show. >> coming up on "the willis report," obamacare is here to stay after surviving the election. how will it impact the health plan you sign up for this open enrollment season? what you need to know next. a fall from grace for the now former head of the cia david patraeus. taking a new twist. k. t. mcfarland is here with the unbelievable details. and just like in hurricanes past, sandy left behind many set up an sand filled cars. the deputy automotive editor for consumer enforcement is here with what you should let go for the next ti
food on the table and gas in the tank. >> obama had the right rhetoric. the middle class and take home pay, but i'm not sure there were the signature policies to back those words up. gerri: a long way to go and stuff to get through before that happens. it will be interesting to see. thank you for coming on. always great to see you. now we want to know what you think. here is our question. sinn millionaires pay higher taxes? logitech gerriwillis.com, on the right-hand side of the screen...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. really? the republican party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires? >> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and obviously, there's money to be gained by closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. so, i think there's a lot of ways to skin this cat, so long as everybody comes with a positive, constructive attitude toward the task. >> axelrod also pointed out that exit polling from the election showed 60% of the american agreed with raising taxes on the highest earners. >>> there's a renewed focus on immigration policy, following a presidential election that saw a growing divide between republicans and the hispanic community. now, two senators on opposite sides of the aisle says they're confid
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. really? the republican party is going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires? >> speaker john boehner on friday, appeared to give a little ground, suggesting that limits on tax deductions could be part of a deal, something that senior obama adviser, david axelrod, said was a step in the right direction. >> i think the speaker's comments have been encouraging. and...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it $1 million. really, the republican party is going to fall on its swords to defend millionaires half of whom voted democrat and half of whom live in hollywood. >> jonathan, who was that man calling himself bill crystal. what have you done with him? unleash him. better yet, maybe keep him there and let this bill crystal come out. do you think more people are listening to him this time around with this kind of reasoned and balanced approach? >> it sends a clear signal that republicans and conservative republicans have heeded the message from the american people from the election last week and that they want things to work here in washington and particularly they knew the president campaigned on raising taxes on the wealthy. people knew about it when they were exit polled. they said that they voted for the president and that they were fine with the president raising taxes on those making $250,000 a year or more. so the president has a lot of cards, but those cards diminish in val
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, make it $1 million. really, the republican party is going to fall on its swords to defend millionaires half of whom voted democrat and half of whom live in hollywood. >> jonathan, who was that man calling himself bill crystal. what have you done with him? unleash him. better yet, maybe keep him there and let this bill crystal come out. do you think more people are listening to him this...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below 250,000. >> now joining me is ayman javers. you have two comments. top conservatives saying they don't know any rich republican who wouldn't be willing to put more money on the table. i have to ask you about the president's strategy brifg in business leaders. this is a smart strategy and getting some of those people that many aassume would support romney and maybe donated to him, wall street fellows, who could be helpful to the president now. >> there's a big movement among some business leaders to push for any deal on the fiscal cliff between now and the end of the year. although they worry about the prospect of increased taxes, they're worried about the prospect over the fiscal cliff and the damage to the u.s. economy. there are business groups raising money to run tv ads, for example, pushing for congress to come to a deal here. so the president has an ally there in some business folks that he maybe didn't have on the campaign trail now that attention is turning to this fight. it's simply
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below 250,000. >> now joining me is ayman javers. you have two comments. top conservatives saying they don't know any rich republican who wouldn't be willing to put more money on the table. i have to ask you about the president's strategy brifg in business leaders. this is a smart strategy and getting some of those people that many aassume would support romney and maybe donated to him, wall street...
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joining us now is the california republican party chair. i want you to take a listen to this as well. >> 2014 and 16 is going to be the bottom for the democrats. keep in mind that we have 8 of the 10 worst foreclosure in unemployment areas in the country. californians can't afford to baillout sacramento. when they turn this down, jerry brown is going to have to decide to cut back on government. keep in mind, he has grown government over the last two years. if you can believe it. i think the democrats are headed to a very difficult space. charles: all right. tom, i think we heard it all. listen, i'm just going to ask, what happened? what happened to your prediction? what's going on in california? >> well, what's going on in california, which matters a lot, first of all, i want to thank all the veterans out there for their guaranteeing our freedoms. what happened is the public employee union spent 70 million dollars passing this tax increase and defeating a paycheck protection. in doing that, they also swamped us at the ballot box when it cam
joining us now is the california republican party chair. i want you to take a listen to this as well. >> 2014 and 16 is going to be the bottom for the democrats. keep in mind that we have 8 of the 10 worst foreclosure in unemployment areas in the country. californians can't afford to baillout sacramento. when they turn this down, jerry brown is going to have to decide to cut back on government. keep in mind, he has grown government over the last two years. if you can believe it. i think...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. just freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. making a million, really? >> reporter: he doesn't get a vote. bob corker does. >> we know there has to be revenues and i think, look. i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing to contribute more as long as they know we have solved the problem. >> reporter: still, even if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans, there is still a big divide over how to do that. democrats pledge to let bush era tax rates for families making $250,000 or more expire at the end of the year. go from 35% to 39.6%. to get nearly a trillion dollars in deficit reduction. >> if someone can show another plan that doesn't do that, we look at it, we could look at it but no one's shown one. i think it's impossible. >> reporter: republicans say what they're open to is closing tax loopholes and eliminating some reductions. so far, the president and house speaker have gone out of their way to sound conciliatory and sources
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer. just freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000. making a million, really? >> reporter: he doesn't get a vote. bob corker does. >> we know there has to be revenues and i think, look. i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing to contribute more as long as they know we have solved the problem. >> reporter: still, even if republicans agree to raise taxes on wealthy americans, there is...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer? >> cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash is live for us in washington, d.c. what do you make of his comments? >> soledad, look, bill kristol is not an elected official. he doesn't get a vote. but he is a very influential gop voice here in washington. and around the country. and for him to tell republicans it wouldn't kill to them to agree to tax increases for millionaires. it's a big deal. and we heard some similar talk from republicans who do have a vote like senator bob corker. listen to this. >> i think there is a deal, once the yin and yang, we know there has to be revenues. look, i haven't met a wealthy republican or democrat in tennessee that's not willing to contribute more as long as they know we solve the problem. >> and, soledad, now for the but. the but is that sounds conciliatory, and it is but the two sides are still not close on how to cut a deal on any tax increases. for the most part republicans are still opposed to raising tax rates for the wealthiest ame
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer? >> cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash is live for us in washington, d.c. what do you make of his comments? >> soledad, look, bill kristol is not an elected official. he doesn't get a vote. but he is a very influential gop voice here in washington. and around the country. and for him to tell republicans it wouldn't kill to them to agree to tax increases for millionaires. it's a big deal. and we heard some...
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. >> i don't really understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below 250,000. make it 500, make it a million. the republican party will fall on half who voted democratic and half who live in hollywood. >> we're beginning to see some really from the right side of the party saying let's get this done. we learned a lesson of sorts in the election. don't let it go to waste. >> seems like there's a split in the republican party and people that want to make a deal and people that say there's no deal and the no deal crowd is now being identified as crystal did with we don't want to deal. we want to bail out millionaires. >> i continue to hear the rallying cry from those who are against raising the rates on the highest earners that it's only going to raise 80 billion or 100 billion, 110 billion maybe the high. we have a trillion dollar deficit. you continue to hear that argument which doesn't make a great deal of sense in the sense that you need sacrifice and everybody to buy in and that's going to have to happen as well. i do wonder if that's going to s
. >> i don't really understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below 250,000. make it 500, make it a million. the republican party will fall on half who voted democratic and half who live in hollywood. >> we're beginning to see some really from the right side of the party saying let's get this done. we learned a lesson of sorts in the election. don't let it go to waste. >> seems like there's a split in the republican party and people that...
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somewhere for george bush that got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, a percentage higher than barack obama got this year. there is a vibrant part of the republican party that understands that there has to be a practical solution to the fact that there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. at the same time we could smartly deal with border security to prevent the flood of more. but for those 11 million year we just can't say selfdeportation as a solution. gregg: speaker john boehner came out and said and i'll quote, a comprehensive approach is long overdue. politically is now a good time to try and do it? >> well i don't think the republicans really have a choice at this point. i think the writing is on the wall that they are going to need to work with the president on it. and hopefully we will be able to actually see both sides come together and do some sort of comprehensive immigration reform. it's true that george bush -- george bush essentially had the same position as ted kennedy on immigration reform, and karl rove was another person who had really urged the party to
somewhere for george bush that got 44% of the hispanic vote in 2004, a percentage higher than barack obama got this year. there is a vibrant part of the republican party that understands that there has to be a practical solution to the fact that there are 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country. at the same time we could smartly deal with border security to prevent the flood of more. but for those 11 million year we just can't say selfdeportation as a solution. gregg: speaker john...
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. >> i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below -- make it a million. really, republican party will fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted democratic and live in hollywood? >> what do you think? did the election make a difference here? did it take losing this election to get conservatives to maybe talk about this at least? >> well, everybody ought to be talking about everything. but let's get serious about taxing the rich. let's do better. let's confiscate everything that anybody who makes a million bucks a year confiscate everything they own, every swimming pool, every yacht, every overseas place, every airplane. that will run the country for nine months. who is kidding who? you can't cut spending your way out of the hole. you have to use a blend. anyone telling you differently is a fake. >> you've launched a new group, erskine -- with erskine bowles call the campaign to fix the debt. are you trying to revive in some sort of sense simpson/bowles? >> well, we're like lazarus, right? i don't have that
. >> i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below -- make it a million. really, republican party will fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted democratic and live in hollywood? >> what do you think? did the election make a difference here? did it take losing this election to get conservatives to maybe talk about this at least? >> well, everybody ought to be talking about everything. but let's get...
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>> what boehner said and in the republican position since republican we should reduce rates have economic growth many of which are put in by obama for the solyndra green-type energy programs. let's bring the rates down. boehner was clear he wanted increase revenues it is not a tax increase to put more americans at work. if our recovery was growing the rate reagans did more americans would be at work. in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from 15-20. where do you think that those four points will go in negotiations with the republicans? >> mr. boehner said one thing he's not willing to give up on is maintaining the 35 percent top rate. obama wants 39.6 percent. it
>> what boehner said and in the republican position since republican we should reduce rates have economic growth many of which are put in by obama for the solyndra green-type energy programs. let's bring the rates down. boehner was clear he wanted increase revenues it is not a tax increase to put more americans at work. if our recovery was growing the rate reagans did more americans would be at work. in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan...
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i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, making $1 million, really? republican party's going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted democratic and half of whom live in hollywood. >> it is the top of the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." >> that's a rough division. >> yeah, something like that. >> john heilemann and richard haass are still with us. and joining the table, pulitzer prize-winning historian, jon meacham. he's the author of a book that is now out. >> yes! >> we have been calling it forthcoming for six months. >> yeah. >> six months? six years. >> in a shameless display of self-promotion. >> not if you do it. >> the book is called "thomas jefferson: the art of power," which we'll talk about a little later in the show. it's really good. >> yeah. i started reading it this weekend. very exciting. >> thank you. >> no, it is exciting. i think people are going to see a side to jefferson they haven't seen. >> he was a politician. first and foremost. >> he was. >> and it's fun being
i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes for everyone below $250,000, making $1 million, really? republican party's going to fall on its sword to defend a bunch of millionaires, half of whom voted democratic and half of whom live in hollywood. >> it is the top of the hour. welcome back to "morning joe." >> that's a rough division. >> yeah, something like that. >> john heilemann and richard haass are still with us. and joining...